i went to college for graphic design, we used macs. i thought there was no other. we had visitors in the school, they asked me, why dont u use PC's? i just laughed and said because they're junk. looking back i had no facts to back up that claim, i just "knew it" like a priest knows there's a god i guess.
anyway its many years later and i long ago switched to PC.
ive noticed huge myths in the PC vs mac debate.
1) it's like there's only 2 types of computers, mac and those piece of junk PC's they sell at futureshop etc. It's simply not true. There are Business class PC's!
2) mac are for art, pc are for business. ridiculous really. its all about the programs- adobe is for artists with PC or mac. exel, powerpoint is for business.
3) windows sucks. Well not for me. i have had win 98, XP pro and now Win7 Pro 64bit and no major problems at all. and i dont run any anti virus. as far as OS visuals, i just wanna get in the programs, 3D looping icons don't impress me. i still have my windows desktop setup just like the classic old macs.
Now for a good price comparison, i just got a HP 8740W on ebay. it's brand new open box deal with factory warranty.
-made of aluminum just like macs with nice brushed aluminum finish.
-gorgeous brite 17" screen. not HD low profile, more room for graphics toolbars.
-wsxga resolution. 1680x1050. it's my favourite resolution. not too small online or for writing action script code but lots of room in space hog programs like flash.
-core i5 turbo processors.
-ATI firepro 8720 graphics card!! that's a much more powerful card than even macs best 17" macbook pro has, and its optimized for photoshop and illustrator etc. As a bonus, it also plays any game on the planet on high res. too!
-trackpoint eraserhead style mouse. i love these things. i can do complicated photoshop lasso selections, illustrator bezier curve drawing, web or games. wayyy more accurate than touchpad, with 3 useful buttons. (it has the touchpad too)
-military tested and passed for drop, water and sand.
-can be upgraded to i7 quad core, 32GB ram, quadro 5000m card and dreamcolor screen, (the undisputed best laptop screen in the world for photographers etc.)
And the best part about this laptop, it was less than a grand!! i looked to see what mac i could get for this price..what a joke, thats what made me want to write this.
The dell m6400/m6500 and thinkpad w700/w701 are beautiful graphics powerhouses too, although they're bulky and heavy, my HP is quite a bit smaller. The thinkpad DS comes with dual screens and a built in Waycom tablet!! now that is built for an artist. And it's still less than the macbook pro?? theres tons of cheaper and smaller business class units as well and i could go on for days, but one quicky- i got my daughter a mint dell d630 for only $300. it's also aluminum chasis, small, gorgeous and bombproof. She loves it.
Anyway, my rant is over. The reason i wrote this is simple, i just wanted to let other graphic artists know there are alternatives to overpriced macsbecause most artists i know dont have pocketfulls of spare cash to waste just to be the most stylish at starbucks...
Reply 1 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
We are all better off with more people like yourself.
Not for the reason you think, either.
I happen to think our community (Apple Users) has exceeded capacity.
Not for the reason you think, either.
I happen to think our community (Apple Users) has exceeded capacity.
Reply 2 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
Well I'm glad you were informed about what you were purchasing. Thats one of the most important things as a smart consumer. I'm tired of people purchasing laptops or anything for that matter just to say ooooh look at me I have a ________ whatever. I say get what fills your needs IMO. Sticking with Macbook Pro moving on lol...
Reply 3 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
wow... I never heard of this "PC" thing!!! thanks!
Reply 4 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
@op *yawn*
8740w = 1 hour battery life.
$4k+cost w/listed options.
@graphic designers. op's cake is a lie.
8740w = 1 hour battery life.
$4k+cost w/listed options.
@graphic designers. op's cake is a lie.
Reply 5 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
*shrugs* Some design firms use macs, others use PCs. Doesn't really matter one way or another. Photoshop is Photoshop, Illustrator is Illustrator, InDesign is Indesign.
You are right on point though when you mention universities perpetuating the myth that macs are great and windows is junk. It's a mantra they pound into the heads of the student body year after year. The students swallow it hook line and sinker without even giving it a second thought just like you did at one point.
Your resentment seems to be towards apple, when in reality it should be towards your professors and yourself.
If you really want to help aspiring graphic artists, encourage them to make up their own mind. Let them know that either computer will work fine for their needs. Let them know they should use and be able to use both platforms if they want to make themselves more marketable in a saturated industry. Try to remain unbiased and encourage artistic excellence above all else, always.
You are right on point though when you mention universities perpetuating the myth that macs are great and windows is junk. It's a mantra they pound into the heads of the student body year after year. The students swallow it hook line and sinker without even giving it a second thought just like you did at one point.
Your resentment seems to be towards apple, when in reality it should be towards your professors and yourself.
If you really want to help aspiring graphic artists, encourage them to make up their own mind. Let them know that either computer will work fine for their needs. Let them know they should use and be able to use both platforms if they want to make themselves more marketable in a saturated industry. Try to remain unbiased and encourage artistic excellence above all else, always.
Reply 6 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
Windows is not super unreliable.
Linux is not user friendly.
Mac Os is reliable and user friendly.
Now you can decide for yourself what is better for work.
Hint: Mac Os
Linux is not user friendly.
Mac Os is reliable and user friendly.
Now you can decide for yourself what is better for work.
Hint: Mac Os
Reply 7 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by doh123 
wow... I never heard of this "PC" thing!!! thanks!
|
It was not in my knowledge before about that typical "PC" thing....
So I am thankful to him as well for sharing it here...
Reply 8 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
They're just tools. Some people prefer one sort, some prefer a different sort. I use Macs for some things, Windows PCs for other things, Linux for some other things. Hell, I even have DOS 6 & NT4 boxes kicking around fulfilling random little jobs!
Fifteen, twenty years ago they were much better than the vast majority of Windows PCs, both better constructed and engineered and (crucially) Mac OS was much better for running Photoshop, Pro Tools & such than Windows was. This is probably where the reputation 'better for creative stuff' comes from. It's no longer true really (they both do more or less the same thing, with the exception of certain OSX-only software etc), but that doesn't mean there are never any valid reasons to buy one.
Also (slight tangent): I HATE this 'Mac vs PC' phrasing. A Mac is a PC. It's a different sort of PC to a Windows PC, but they are both subsets of 'personal computer'. That ad campaign massively annoyed me.
Fifteen, twenty years ago they were much better than the vast majority of Windows PCs, both better constructed and engineered and (crucially) Mac OS was much better for running Photoshop, Pro Tools & such than Windows was. This is probably where the reputation 'better for creative stuff' comes from. It's no longer true really (they both do more or less the same thing, with the exception of certain OSX-only software etc), but that doesn't mean there are never any valid reasons to buy one.
Also (slight tangent): I HATE this 'Mac vs PC' phrasing. A Mac is a PC. It's a different sort of PC to a Windows PC, but they are both subsets of 'personal computer'. That ad campaign massively annoyed me.
Reply 9 : PC vs Mac for graphic design
Quote:
|
Also (slight tangent): I HATE this 'Mac vs PC' phrasing. A Mac is a PC. It's a different sort of PC to a Windows PC, but they are both subsets of 'personal computer'. That ad campaign massively annoyed me. |
ReplyDeleteWonderful blog & good post.Its really helpful for me, awaiting for more new post. Keep Blogging!
HP OJPRO8720